Comments on: long overdue http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/ because there's NO place like 'home' Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:47:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: M http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-43 M Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:27:32 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-43 Hey you, What a busy few weeks it's been, hey? Unfortunately, I think the journos and editors responsible do know better, but they also think fear sells and that's their bottom line. I've been looking at lots of photos of a coworker's new grandson today, grinning like a fool, gushing about my own situation, and generally getting very excited. Hey you,
What a busy few weeks it’s been, hey? Unfortunately, I think the journos and editors responsible do know better, but they also think fear sells and that’s their bottom line.
I’ve been looking at lots of photos of a coworker’s new grandson today, grinning like a fool, gushing about my own situation, and generally getting very excited.

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By: FaeryClaire http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-44 FaeryClaire Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:26:13 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-44 The world is changing, there are those that try to halt it but more and more are supporting equality. 'Bring it on' indeed!! Love ya Son, Rosie and little one to come. MWA! The world is changing, there are those that try to halt it but more and more are supporting equality.
‘Bring it on’ indeed!!

Love ya Son, Rosie and little one to come. MWA!

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By: James http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-50 James Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:26:30 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-50 Another great read Sonja. I've got to admit 3 negative responses from your otherwise friendly control group isn't too bad. The same question to my classroom's parents would have generated a 96% negative and possibly hostile reaction. In fact, today is the first day I actually needed to deal specifically with homophobia in the classroom. I've let numerous gibes and insults go unchecked this year as my 7th grade class come to grips with the power of words and their possible detrimental effects. Children use homophobic name-calling at first when they often have no clear understanding of what exactly it is or isn't that they are belittling their victim with, so it's often pointless correcting them when they haven't the most basic understanding of what they are talking about. However, after several months of enduring a steady rise in 'you're gay', 'you're a fag', 'that's gay' ad nauseum, I finally gave the classroom a swift talking to this morning. It went down well as one student blurted out that her mum's two best friends were gay - not exactly an every day revelation in conservative Turkey. Nicely for the entire class, the student who backed me up happens to be the most popular and influential in her Year, so I'm hoping that her approval will put an end to 'gay' as a term of abuse in the classroom. Of course, it's a small step in a culture in which homosexuality is about as welcome as a drag queen at a bricklayers' barbeque, but it is an improvement. I admire your willingness to undertake any project requiring contact with administration of the Dept of Education. I look forward to another update soon... take good care of yourselves. Another great read Sonja.

I’ve got to admit 3 negative responses from your otherwise friendly control group isn’t too bad. The same question to my classroom’s parents would have generated a 96% negative and possibly hostile reaction.

In fact, today is the first day I actually needed to deal specifically with homophobia in the classroom. I’ve let numerous gibes and insults go unchecked this year as my 7th grade class come to grips with the power of words and their possible detrimental effects. Children use homophobic name-calling at first when they often have no clear understanding of what exactly it is or isn’t that they are belittling their victim with, so it’s often pointless correcting them when they haven’t the most basic understanding of what they are talking about.

However, after several months of enduring a steady rise in ‘you’re gay’, ‘you’re a fag’, ‘that’s gay’ ad nauseum, I finally gave the classroom a swift talking to this morning. It went down well as one student blurted out that her mum’s two best friends were gay - not exactly an every day revelation in conservative Turkey. Nicely for the entire class, the student who backed me up happens to be the most popular and influential in her Year, so I’m hoping that her approval will put an end to ‘gay’ as a term of abuse in the classroom.

Of course, it’s a small step in a culture in which homosexuality is about as welcome as a drag queen at a bricklayers’ barbeque, but it is an improvement.

I admire your willingness to undertake any project requiring contact with administration of the Dept of Education. I look forward to another update soon… take good care of yourselves.

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By: sonjavi http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-52 sonjavi Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:28:00 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-52 Hi James, So great to hear from you! I wish you'd had the opportunity to be at the 'That's so Gay!' conference in Sydney a couple of weeks ago... it would have provided you with the same inspiration as it did me! J and I were just talking the other day about the likelihood of you ever returning to Australia and whether the prospect of having babies would lure you back? Socially and legally things ARE getting better here (with Federal Attorney General Robert McClelland announcing yesterday that the Rudd Government intends to address the 100 or so areas of federal law that currently discriminate against same-sex individuals, couples and families... ) You'd be a great dad AND we need more teachers like you here too! Congratulations on taking a stand against homophobia in Turkey... that must have felt like a significant personal risk, so WELL DONE XX Hi James,

So great to hear from you! I wish you’d had the opportunity to be at the ‘That’s so Gay!’ conference in Sydney a couple of weeks ago… it would have provided you with the same inspiration as it did me!

J and I were just talking the other day about the likelihood of you ever returning to Australia and whether the prospect of having babies would lure you back?

Socially and legally things ARE getting better here (with Federal Attorney General Robert McClelland announcing yesterday that the Rudd Government intends to address the 100 or so areas of federal law that currently discriminate against same-sex individuals, couples and families… )

You’d be a great dad AND we need more teachers like you here too!

Congratulations on taking a stand against homophobia in Turkey… that must have felt like a significant personal risk, so WELL DONE XX

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By: lisa Barrett http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-53 lisa Barrett Sun, 04 May 2008 00:52:57 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-53 What a fantastic read and a great insight into a beautiful and colourful woman. What a fantastic read and a great insight into a beautiful and colourful woman.

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By: Sue Kentlyn http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-54 Sue Kentlyn Sun, 04 May 2008 20:42:35 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-54 Hey Son I can hear your pain here, so I know how incredibly brave you are in continuing to engage with these people who disappoint and even betray you. I think it's people like you, far more than all the political activism, that will actually bring the most change for queer people in this country. We can change all the laws we want, but it's this personal challenge to people's misinformed prejudices that will bring meaningul and lasting change. Just think, if you weren't there being honest and testing people's attitudes, they would be able to go on complacently seeing themselves as 'tolerant' and indoctrinating their children, rather than being forced to face their prejudice and discriminatory and hypocritical behaviour. You and Rosie, and now this wonderful new life, are the real change agents, and we all owe you a debt of gratitude. Stay strong, and unique, and your own precious selves. much love Sue Kentlyn Hey Son
I can hear your pain here, so I know how incredibly brave you are in continuing to engage with these people who disappoint and even betray you. I think it’s people like you, far more than all the political activism, that will actually bring the most change for queer people in this country. We can change all the laws we want, but it’s this personal challenge to people’s misinformed prejudices that will bring meaningul and lasting change. Just think, if you weren’t there being honest and testing people’s attitudes, they would be able to go on complacently seeing themselves as ‘tolerant’ and indoctrinating their children, rather than being forced to face their prejudice and discriminatory and hypocritical behaviour. You and Rosie, and now this wonderful new life, are the real change agents, and we all owe you a debt of gratitude. Stay strong, and unique, and your own precious selves.
much love
Sue Kentlyn

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By: sonjavi http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-55 sonjavi Mon, 05 May 2008 03:11:18 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-55 Hi Sue, Thanks so much for your words of support - they made my day... possibly week and even longer! It's one of the unexpected benefits of baring your soul in a blog - the voices of support from community really help me feel like this is not a path I need to tread alone! Hope you are well, Sonja Hi Sue,

Thanks so much for your words of support - they made my day… possibly week and even longer! It’s one of the unexpected benefits of baring your soul in a blog - the voices of support from community really help me feel like this is not a path I need to tread alone!

Hope you are well,

Sonja

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By: Janet http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-56 Janet Thu, 15 May 2008 23:54:09 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-56 Go homebirth! Particularly after previous surgery! Wishing you a beautiful birth and a lovely pregnancy journey as you travel towards meeting your baby in the way you both deserve. Best wishes, Janet. Go homebirth! Particularly after previous surgery! Wishing you a beautiful birth and a lovely pregnancy journey as you travel towards meeting your baby in the way you both deserve. Best wishes, Janet.

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By: H http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-59 H Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:31:06 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-59 Hi Sonja, A great read. I commend you on your courage and I hope this experience makes your family all the more stronger. There are gay people i regularly work with, who are fortunate to have supportive families, but I had no idea the extent of the difficulties that gay people have to through in doing even the most pedestrian of things in life that many take for granted - like getting involved in your child's school! My mother who is a psychologist told me recently that same-sex relationships can be among the most unstable. I imagine not being able to live openly and having to defend all sorts of things plays a part. I recently caught up with a dear friend of mine from high school whom i suspect is gay. They haven't told me openly, but upon wisting their home recently there was a lot of compelling evidence that they were a bit more intimate with their housemate. It's difficult for this friend to come out. their father is ultra conservative (in high school their household TV was electronically locked). They had a brother who was quite sensitive and progressive, but when their mother died, he went crazy and only got better through religion. so no go there. it wouldn't surprise me if this friend has neither told their brother nor father about their sexuality. that's not something easy to live with. after reading this, i'm not entirely sure being open is all that much easier. with stats like 3/11, i'm not sure if that's good or not. prejudice can still be potent irrespective of the quantity it comes in. good luck, and I look forward to reading more. Best wishes, H Hi Sonja,

A great read. I commend you on your courage and I hope this experience makes your family all the more stronger.

There are gay people i regularly work with, who are fortunate to have supportive families, but I had no idea the extent of the difficulties that gay people have to through in doing even the most pedestrian of things in life that many take for granted - like getting involved in your child’s school!

My mother who is a psychologist told me recently that same-sex relationships can be among the most unstable. I imagine not being able to live openly and having to defend all sorts of things plays a part.

I recently caught up with a dear friend of mine from high school whom i suspect is gay. They haven’t told me openly, but upon wisting their home recently there was a lot of compelling evidence that they were a bit more intimate with their housemate. It’s difficult for this friend to come out. their father is ultra conservative (in high school their household TV was electronically locked). They had a brother who was quite sensitive and progressive, but when their mother died, he went crazy and only got better through religion. so no go there. it wouldn’t surprise me if this friend has neither told their brother nor father about their sexuality. that’s not something easy to live with. after reading this, i’m not entirely sure being open is all that much easier.

with stats like 3/11, i’m not sure if that’s good or not. prejudice can still be potent irrespective of the quantity it comes in.

good luck, and I look forward to reading more. Best wishes, H

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By: K http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-61 K Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:33:58 +0000 http://www.familyvalues.katalyst.com.au/blog/2008/04/29/long-overdue/#comment-61 Just letting you know I'm patiently waiting for the next installment...Not that I'm trying to pressure you or anything lol. I know you're a busy woman and blogging can come way down on the priority list ;-) Just letting you know I’m patiently waiting for the next installment…Not that I’m trying to pressure you or anything lol. I know you’re a busy woman and blogging can come way down on the priority list ;-)

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